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Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Placid PI Thundering Herd 29	Posted - 2011.10.25 22:32:00 - [1] - Quote I totally agree with this. I had to Ice Mine the past 3 mornings for my POS, and I actually got angry at how many are out there, not necessarily botting ice, but just flat-out AFK and 'doing the laundry' and actually saying such on Local. Even when Noob you couldn't PAY me not to be staring at the screen, at least every 30 seconds or so while watching TV. It truly is unbelievable. They are not playing in my opinion. Go ahead and 'splode them please. And I realized awhile ago you CANNOT TANK A MACKINAW. Forget about it. There is absolutely nothing you can do if they are going to gank you. Hulks are a different story. So, I just don't tank the Mackinaw at all except for it's ratting Drones. What's the point ? NOTHING will save that paper bag of a ship no matter what you try......so let go. Besides, with just the 2 Harvesters, you can fit 2 of the Mining Upgrade II modules you otherwise could not......and that's 10 seconds fasterper cycle. So, forget the Mack tank and BE AWARE. God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Placid PI Thundering Herd 29	Posted - 2011.10.25 22:35:00 - [2] - Quote Desert Ice78 wrote: Stay aligned while mining?!?!?! Have you ever even been in a belt never mind actually mined in one????? *****.....come back when you might actually know what you are talking about. erm......what exactly are you saying........?????????? God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"*
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Placid PI Thundering Herd 29	Posted - 2011.10.25 22:37:00 - [3] - Quote Veronica Kerrigan wrote: Moreover, Highsec dscan is so cluttered as it is that even during wartime it isn't a good intelligence tool. For your plan to work, you have to sort through every yahoo in a combat ship worth less than 100 mil Agreed...unless you are in the literal dead middle of Amarr, this will ONLY work in Low Sec. God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Placid PI Thundering Herd 29	Posted - 2011.10.25 22:41:00 - [4] - Quote CorpAlt 18368 wrote: With bulkheads and armor rigs on a Hulk, ............ And LOSE the low slots where the MU II Module should be ??? Try Shields next time..........like the Invuln Field II and a Shield recharge Rig. Hulks use SHIELDS SHIELDS SHIELDS. No WONDER people are losing Hulks by the thousands......... God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Placid PI Thundering Herd 29	Posted - 2011.10.25 23:08:00 - [5] - Quote CorpAlt 18368 wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: CorpAlt 18368 wrote: With bulkheads and armor rigs on a Hulk, ............ And LOSE the low slots where the MU II Module should be ??? Try Shields next time.......... I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or you're simply stupid (I'll just cut to the chase and assume the latter), but if you want to mine ice in an ice field that's likely being scouted by a ganker's cloaked alt, you're going to have to give up some efficiency. I'll break it down for you. Optimal range on ice harvesters (T1 and T2) is 10 km. This means that at 66 m/s (75% of your maximum speed with Nav V) you will have to realign every 5 minutes to stay in range. With bulkheads and armor rigs, your maximum speed is reduced to 64 m/s, allowing you to enter warp at 48 m/s. That means that you only have to realign every 7 minutes (although you DO align a little slower, but the difference is insignificant with only two bulkheads) Way too complicated to deal with that...all this 're-aligning' and nonsense. And Scripted Insta-Lock and Scram.......ain't no way outta that....and all the careful attention to timing your realigns is out the window with one POP. SHEILD the Hulk and FORGET the tank on a Mackinaw. Stay aligned (staic) and a Prayer....that's all you have in a Mack. Period. Uselesssly moving and tricky reallignes (especially with an Orca involved)...Goodl Lord there are better ways....... God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Placid PI Thundering Herd 29	Posted - 2011.10.26 00:41:00 - [6] - Quote CorpAlt 18368 wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: CorpAlt 18368 wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: [quote=CorpAlt 18368] With bulkheads and armor rigs on a Hulk, ............ And LOSE the low slots where the MU II Module should be ??? Try Shields next time.......... Uselesssly moving and tricky reallignes (especially with an Orca involved)...Goodl Lord there are better ways....... You understand that a ship can't lock you the moment it appears on grid, right? It has to exit warp ("land") first. As far as aligning goes, you understand that this is part of daily life when ratting in 0.0 (at least with missiles) - right? I'm sorry that your AFK/inattentive playstyle is ultimately not working out for you. If you read my earlier posts I am anyting BUT afk. But you do prove my point as you do refer to ratting in Null where this is indeed a mechanic that must be used. Unfortunately, we are talking about MINING here btw. God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Placid PI Thundering Herd 29	Posted - 2011.10.26 00:46:00 - [7] - Quote Simetraz wrote: Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: Here's the skinny - This technique is 100% foolproof - if you are ganked, it is because you were not watching for danger. All the clicking in the world isn't going to get you out of the belt before you are destroyed. ...neither will ANY tank on the Mack. And this non-static aligning....... I'm really only paying attention when mining Ice in order to save the Orca ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"

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